ORLANDO, Fla. — Andrea Lyon is on Casey Anthony’s defense dream team and she’s supposed to be the expert on the death penalty. Eyewitness News obtained an audio recording of Andrea Lyon bashing judges, female prosecutors, victim’s advocates and even calling jurors “killers.” Lyon made the comments at a conference in Orlando (Listen: part 1 | part 2) before she joined Casey’s defense team.Casey’s lawyer Jose Baez wasn’t qualified to handle a death penalty case himself, so he hired Andrea Lyon, a Chicago death penalty expert who calls herself a “pioneer in the field.” Andrea Lyon also calls herself a “genius, legendary” and says her intelligence is superior to jurors’ intelligence.
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In the audiotape that Eyewitness News obtained of Andrea Lyon lecturing local lawyers in 2008, she bragged about being thrown out of courtrooms. Lyon said judges are only worried about voters and called them “ugly.”“Sometimes ugly is presiding. Or do you have great judges in Florida?” Lyon questioned in the recording.Also on the tape, Lyon called jurors, “killers.”“You can give the killers on your jury, and there are some, the ammunition they need to go after people,” Lyons said.She called victims’ advocates awful, and worse, for interfering with her efforts to make inroads with a murder victim’s relative.“They figured out I was talking to her and that my client’s mother was talking to her and they didn’t like that so they sent one of these victim witness’ little b**ches up there,” she said.Lyon also made a very crude comment about female prosecutors and their femininity, after calling them uncivilized.“You know they all wear those little ties and have strap*** at home, whatever,” Lyon said. “I actually will take them aside and say, ‘I’m one of the pioneers and you’re embarrassing me by your behavior.’”She described one of her former jurors as a mean librarian and an elderly juror as a “blue hair.”WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer
(watch interview) calls her comments outrageous.“It’s certainly not something that a true professional whether you’re defense or prosecutor really tries to do,” Sheaffer said.Lyon’s lecture last year could shed light on how she will approach Casey Anthony’s death penalty case. She tells lawyers to get emotional to make jurors feel guilty and to make up theories.
DEFENSE FILES MOTION DEMANDING EQUUSEARCH PAPERWORKThere was more action in the case against Casey Anthony Monday.Late Monday afternoon, Casey’s defense team filed another motion
(read) demanding all Texas EquuSearch paperwork regarding the search for Caylee Anthony.
DOCUMENT: Motion To Obtain EquuSearch Paperwork
The organization claimed no volunteers searched the woods where Caylee was found, but the defense claims it found EquuSearch volunteers who did.Still, prosecution experts say Caylee’s body had skeletonized as early as two weeks after it was placed in woods and before she was even reported missing.Also, a former volunteer with Texas-based EquuSearch who’s been a well-known Anthony family advocate since the beginning, says she was questioned by detectives Monday.Joy Wray claims she has information on her home computer that would prove Casey’s innocence.
CASEY’S DEFENSE INTERVIEWS KRONK’S EX-WIVES Not only is Casey Anthony’s defense team trying to blame Roy Kronk for killing Caylee, new videos released Friday
(watch it | images) show lawyers are trying to dig up every speck of dirt they can on him.Kronk is the meter reader who found Caylee’s body in the woods near Casey Anthony’s house last December. Eyewitness News reported Thursday night the defense team wants to label Kronk as a suspect and it wants the sheriff’s office to investigate if Kronk really killed Caylee.
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Kronk’s bitter ex-wives have accused him of almost everything but the Kennedy assassination and the 9-11 attacks, but they were not questioned under oath and the defense did not provide one iota of evidence to support any of the allegations, no police reports, nothing.One-by-one, former meter reader Roy Kronk’s ex-wives and their bitter children made wild accusations.“Sometimes he’d walk in when I was putting my clothes on,” said April Applegate Hensley, the daughter of one of Kronk’s ex-girlfriends. “I told him I was tired of it and jokingly he said, ‘Turn to animals and I’ll videotape it.’”But she also said Kronk supported her terminally-ill mother and that he brought the only discipline into her troubled life, which she resented.“I pulled back. He hit the door, broke his wrist,” ex-wife Crystal Sparks said during the questioning. “He threw me up against the back of the door … He was not a good dad.”Sparks told the defense Kronk exposed their 6-year-old to porn.
She couldn’t remember whether she filed for a protective order and couldn’t explain her email praising Kronk for finding Caylee Anthony’s remains saying he did a good thing.“Given the opportunity, he probably would’ve killed me,” ex-wife Jill Kerley said.But ex-husband Roy Kronk didn’t kill her, though she says he duct taped her hands, kidnapped and beat her.“He probably was the one who murdered Caylee Anthony or had something to do with it,” Kerley said.“I deem these tactics as despicable,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said. Sheaffer says it’s telling that the defense private investigator did not interview Kronk’s bitter exes under oath, which makes them worthless.“Very clumsy investigating technique or it was deliberate not to go under oath, because they might not have gotten the same responses,” Sheaffer said.The biggest problem with all the accusations is that they have nothing to do with Caylee Anthony’s murder. He says it’s a hard sell that Kronk murdered Caylee, pretended to find her remains, collected a reward and set himself up for a possible death sentence.“How absurd does that sound when I say it? Absurd,” Sheaffer said.
It’s not uncommon for bitter exes to do this.“You bet they see an opportunity for their 15 minutes of fame and to, in fact, pay back,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.Sheaffer points out that, if the defense team repeats unsubstantiated allegations like this outside of court, they could be sued. They didn’t during their morning network blitz Friday, which tells him they have no evidence to back them up.“Well, what happens to a cornered animal? They just lash out, lash out, lash out,” Sheaffer said.
Kronk’s attorney said the defense never asked Kronk specific questions about these allegations Thursday when they had him under oath and could’ve pinned him down while they had the advantage of surprise. Sheaffer says it’s another indication that this is another media stunt without any evidentiary or legal substance.Roy Kronk said he first found the plastic bag containing Caylee’s body in the woods near the Anthony home in August, but a deputy didn’t take him seriously and really didn’t investigate. So he called deputies back into the woods again on December 11 and that’s when they took a close look and found Caylee’s body.Kronk’s estranged son told the defense (watch it) he thought Caylee’s remains were found last November, not December, which the defense twisted into Kronk having prior knowledge. The problem with that is that another meter reader told Eyewitness News he was the one who told Kronk about Caylee’s neighborhood; Kronk was not familiar with the area.Kronk worked for Orange County until last month, when he was fired during a dispute over a shoulder injury.
CASEY DEFENSE WANTS KRONK CONSIDERED ‘SUSPECT’Lawyers for Casey Anthony filed a motion (read motion) late Thursday that named the man who found Caylee Anthony’s remains as a possible suspect in her death. Shortly after former meter reader Roy Kronk answered questions in a deposition on Thursday, Casey’s defense filed the motion pointing the finger at Kronk.Two of Casey Anthony’s lawyers appeared on national TV Friday morning to point the finger at the new ’suspect.’ They said there is as much circumstantial evidence implicating Kronk as there is against their client.
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“I haven’t done anything wrong and I’ve maintained that the whole time,” Kronk said after Thursday’s deposition.Casey’s defense team claims they have a lot of reason to believe Kronk was involved. Their thoughts are based on interviews they did with Roy Kronk’s ex-wives and girlfriends.“I need you like now. I just found a human skull,” Kronk said in the 911 call that led to finding Caylee’s remains.Nearly everyone, including the State Attorney’s Office praised Roy Kronk when he found Caylee Anthony’s remains, including her skull, in a wooded area on December 11, but the former Orange County meter reader is being picked apart by Casey Anthony’s legal team, headed by attorney Jose Baez.“They’re doing what they’re expected to do. That is them trying to defend their client,” Kronk’s attorney David Evans said.Investigators cleared Kronk and said they don’t believe he has anything to do with Caylee’s horrific death. But in a motion filed Thursday,
Casey’s attorneys claim Kronk is “equally as likely to be responsible for the death of the child.”
“It is the nature of criminal defense to attempt to find someone to blame for a crime other than the person charged. Mr. Kronk has understood from the beginning that the defense might attempt to cast suspicions in his direction–because that’s what defense attorneys do. In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior,” Kronk’s attorney, David Evans, said in a press released Thursday evening. “As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished.”Prosecutors have not talked publicly about the motions, but they have never called Kronk a suspect in the case and have maintained that Casey is responsible for her daughter’s death.
KRONK DEPOSED BY CASEY DEFENSEMeanwhile, Kronk was questioned under oath Thursday. The defense started questioning Roy Kronk Thursday morning and it lasted all day.Kronk is a key prosecution witness. He puts Caylee’s remains in the woods in August of last year, which is consistent with other evidence. Kronk says he saw the same suspicious trash bag in the same area both in August and December.The defense wants to shoot down his story. It’s already made unsubstantiated claims that someone else put the remains there after October 14, which is after Casey was locked up on no bond.
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Kronk smoked a cigarette as he left for a lunch break after a tough morning answering defense questions under oath.“Has it been tough on you?” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked.“I just don’t prefer speaking to the media to be honest, but yeah, it’s been very tough on me,” Kronk replied.Kronk came onto the scene as a hero who followed a hunch to the first patch of woods around the corner from Caylee Anthony’s grandparent’s house on Suburban Drive. Kronk told investigators almost one year ago, when he found Caylee’s remains in the woods, that he believes he was in the exact same spot in August, which is when he called investigators the first time. However, in August, the responding deputy never went to the exact spot where Caylee’s body was and, partly because of that, Deputy Richard Cain was fired.
There have been all kinds of stories circulating, including that Kronk got inside information through a relationship with someone who works at the jail or that he was somehow involved in putting the body there. Prosecutors believe he’s telling the truth no matter what his character flaws are.“Have they started to get into anything personal that’s really unrelated to this case?” Belich asked as Kronk and his attorney left on a lunch break.“They’re just asking their questions. We don’t want to comment in the middle of the deposition,” Kronk’s attorney David Evans replied.The prosecution says other evidence, the condition of the remains and what was found with them and plant growth in the area also show Caylee was there at least since August.The county hired Kronk’s lawyer to help him through the frenzy, until he was let go over a workers’ compensation dispute (read report). But Kronk is grateful his lawyer is now working for free.“I didn’t feel comfortable leaving him without representation, so I’m going to stand by Roy and see it through,” Evans said.Kronk won’t reimburse the county for his $12,000 legal bill. The county says his tenacity saved taxpayers from paying for more searches and what could have been a much tougher prosecution.
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren’t coffin flie?” Belich asked.“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.“I think we’re going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.“I’m not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he’s also considering a guilty plea in Casey’s check fraud case which will be heard in January.
NEXT IN THE CASE AGAINST CASEY The case against Casey will be back to court next month. A pre-trial hearing is scheduled in her check fraud case for December 11.Casey is facing charges for stealing checks from her best friend. The fraud trial is set for January 25.There’s also a pre-trial hearing in her murder trial on January 21.
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Oh my God, this is way worse than I thought it could be. My my my, I am so lost for words here. What the hell are they doing? I cannot believe they are going to try to pin this murder on Kronk. Jesus, what is going on? His ex wives for whatever ever reason are actually telling a story that most authors would love to get their fingers on. A wife is saying he tied her up and the rest is strange as hell. I do have an appreciation for Kronks attorney, but this is going to get messy guys.
We have this cocky chick Andrea Lyon who is self proclaimed as a “genius” who gets murderers off. Wow what a thing to be praised for. What kind of psycho is she? Praising yourself for defending the guilty. Shame, what people won’t do for the spotlight. Now I must add, I like attorneys, but some of them are just the lowest of the low, and this gutter chick may be just what the Killer Mom Casey Anthony needs. I suppose Roy Kronk put Caylees body in the trunk. Kronk should have never gotten involved with the media. Goodness, this man is going to be insane after all of this ends. This Attorney Andrea Lyon is totally confusing the hell out of me, I don’t know whether to slap her or applaud her. Since it’s a case about a murdered child, I think I want to slap her sillier than she already is. She had the audacity to insult the justice system and all of it constituents, as if she believes she carries the holy grail. My goodness, what will she do next? I think that maybe, she should have us bow before her as she enters the room. By her own admission, a jury of Casey Anthonys peers would be too incompetent to rule a fair verdict. Apparently we’re too stupid.
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